ASUS has cratered their brand quality - who is great to buy in 2025?

I’ve been a loyal buyer of Asus gaming laptops for almost 20 years. My second last laptop was disappointing to say the least, and my current one has been returned to the manufacturer for major faults twice. Under Australian consumer guarantees I’m getting a refund on it and will be buying something else.

I’m quiet out of loop with what hardware is the best these days. What brands would you be looking at to get a great gaming laptop with outstanding cooling and good value for money?

Lenovo, particularly the LOQ and Legion lines, are highly recommended for their decent cooling and solid build quality. However, be cautious of regional differences in quality; some markets may have inferior products. It’s wise to check local communities for more specific feedback.

@Jordan
If considering a LOQ, I’d advise against the Essential model due to some known issues.

Kipp said:
@Jordan
If considering a LOQ, I’d advise against the Essential model due to some known issues.

Absolutely, the Essential model tends to have more problems. Thanks for pointing that out!

@Jordan
No problem at all! Always happy to help out.

It’s important to evaluate each model individually rather than generalizing by brand. Some models are well-made, while others might be lacking.

Vine said:
It’s important to evaluate each model individually rather than generalizing by brand. Some models are well-made, while others might be lacking.

Indeed, some of ASUS’s gaming models have faced issues with rapidly degrading vapor chambers, leading to poor long-term cooling performance.

@Madden
Could you explain how a vapor chamber degrades over time?

The XMG Neo 16 is currently one of the best on the market, featuring Mini LED technology and options for attachable water cooling. It’s designed for both power and aesthetics without looking overly ‘gamery.’

@Bevin
XMG is essentially a rebrand of the Clevo chassis, known for its high quality. In Europe, it’s under the XMG brand, but you can find the same models under different names like Eluktronics in the US, which are praised for their build quality and support.

@Noor
What brand would they be under in the US?

Hollis said:
@Noor
What brand would they be under in the US?

In the US, they’re available as Eluktronics, which is known for excellent customer support and build quality.

I switched from ASUS to Lenovo Legion and noticed a significant improvement in build quality and cooling, although the fans can be a bit loud.

I’ve had great experiences with two Lenovo LOQ laptops. They offer good airflow, minimal bloatware, and are easy to upgrade in terms of RAM and storage.

Ira said:
I’ve had great experiences with two Lenovo LOQ laptops. They offer good airflow, minimal bloatware, and are easy to upgrade in terms of RAM and storage.

Is there a difference in build materials between the Legion and LOQ models?

@Zinnia
Yes, the Legion line typically uses higher-end materials and components compared to the more budget-friendly LOQ series.

Cael said:
@Zinnia
Yes, the Legion line typically uses higher-end materials and components compared to the more budget-friendly LOQ series.

That makes sense, thanks for clarifying!

@Zinnia
To add, LOQ models often have a metal frame but use plastic panels, whereas Legions are generally more premium in both specs and materials.

Ira said:
@Zinnia
To add, LOQ models often have a metal frame but use plastic panels, whereas Legions are generally more premium in both specs and materials.

Got it, so it seems like you’re mainly paying extra for better materials and possibly slight spec improvements with the Legion.

@Zinnia
Exactly. It depends on your needs and budget, but both lines offer solid options.